Wade didn't take this pic

"Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com" (exage03040) 07/18/2020 at 16:00 • Filed to: 2wheelsgood, Motorcycle, shitpost

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This is actually the first time seeing what my body position looks like. I’ve only ever had the helmet GoPro to determine my head position and scrapes to know I have okay leg frame, it’s been mostly guess work on my part . I began development last year, after getting the suit. The focus was not simply knee down, but to attempt to develop proper body position and technique. If you’re going to ride with a suit, then you should probably learn to get comfy and quick, and not a poser crossed up goof.

I’m happy with a lot in this photo. The glaring issue is my inside foot is out and close to the deck , I’ve been working on tucking them in a bit because the pegs are a little on the low side.

For context (excuses?), I haven’t done this corner in over a year, and when I last did it I was neutral. I did the opposite direction first and there was a cop directly behind me so I had no initial speed knowledge of the corner other than the recommended posted and other experience to gauge. Because the police were about I decided to make just the one run. So, this is me on a fresh unfamiliar corner at 7/10ths. I generally don’t recommend tomfoolery on undivided, but I’m continuously the ultimate hypocrite and traffic was light.

You can view other riders through watermarks , most of which are displaying more neutral positions. T he full set of me is halfway page down 7:30-8:00:

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These are some videos that helped me :

AestheticsInMotion > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com 07/18/2020 at 16:19

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OhCrikeyTheRozzers > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com 07/18/2020 at 18:41

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That’s an awesome suit and shot—my riding is entirely poser-ADV these days (dirt roads and city streets) but I’d totally invest in a Dianese suit if I rode sport. Anyway, one tip that I got at a racing school a few years back which I think Wade would appreciate: “crotch to cones.” By turning  your torso and crotch to the inside of the corner (e.g., the apex cone) you tend to move your inside foot back a bit on the peg, which helps with the duck foot. Also, consider getting up on your toes a bit more (think of a baseball catcher)—it’ll keep your toes in tightly and back when you’re not shifting or braking, and allow for faster and smoother left-right body position changes.

Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > OhCrikeyTheRozzers 07/18/2020 at 19:08

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Nah man that’s not poser at all, I have maximum respect for off-road riders and guys that hustle adv touring. I wouldn’t mind having a go in the dirt someday on a course like american supercamp (well a bunch of courses actually).

Thanks , I’m always trying to get a handle on the inside foot just to get it in. I’ve worked the left corners a bit more on this being the non dominant for me . I’ve seen riders get away with this foot position on higher pegs (like in the champ school vid ) but these are just a bit too forward and low. M y feet sort of naturally sp lay out just because of how I sat as a child so I’m always riding more duck than I’d like. It’s also compounded that I can’t wear the slimmer racing boots like the Torque because my feet are wide and are completely crushed by them . I make do though, more practice to be had.

OhCrikeyTheRozzers > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com 07/18/2020 at 19:28

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Much obliged—up until a few years ago I had only ever ridden street, so I’ve had to learn off-road after 20 years of doing it a totally different way (and on a Tiger 800 XC to boot). Been hoping to get out to Rawhyde in Colorado or dreaming about Triumph’s off road school in Wales for some time—hopefully one day.

Fair point on the low pegs—spring loading your legs is much easier with a higher peg position. Looks like you’re having fun and doing it safely though; the best riders I know are all  committed to continually learning and improving like you seem to be. 

Nom De Plume > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com 07/18/2020 at 20:22

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Just go to open practice at a track.  These posedowns are great if you want to be a self promoting journalist springboarding out of Oppo.  Otherwise you are going to learn more and be a better rider on the road without resorting to getting your lean on.

Nom De Plume > Nom De Plume 07/18/2020 at 20:30

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Direct point aside, you have been toeing the line between choosing the direction of learning skills best suited for a track and sporty full protection clothing putting you in a sporty position that slowly dominates how you ride.

Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > Nom De Plume 07/19/2020 at 01:24

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I appreciate the feedback, I’ll tailor the posts better in the future.

I have a slight disagreement because I think learning body position is beneficial to street riding. Most riders don’t have to learn the full triangle of light and hang way off but it can be both fun and a beneficial skill to learn as it does reduce lean angle when executed properly. T his being granted that riders don’t go over their 7/10ths control limit and practice where and when appropriate. Some will argue there’s no place on the street for it , but I think the odd spot exists when scouted. I always caution learning this on the street because riders have different judgments on their safety. As you know, r iders don’t like to be dissuaded, many relish the rebellion, thus concession can be a safe compromise . I know of an Oppo interested in BP development, so I’ll admit mostly show-off, part assist.

The track is of course ideal but I’ve always had issues with work scheduling the few days locally offered pre-2020 and now Covid has basically destroyed all local days thus far. It’s also wiped out a significant venue with the boarder also closed. Now the malls have opened so the big parking lots are no more for gymkhana.

The vast majority of my cornering is completely neutral position and my riding respectful around other road users. I wearing uniquely mostly red, isn’t hard for the cops to peg me if called. I have zero sympathy for the guys that get lit-up and ticketed because that means they were dickering about somewhere and doing something they shouldn’t. The police were there for that reason as riders were racing each other up and down the roads, I sped but not something the cops would u-turn or pull out on. Yet, ironically I think I showed in the top 3 riders of BP that was shot. That corner was the only one I went hero mode for the once in a blue moon photo, as I wanted to check my form. I opted for one go, and made the most of it in what I felt was comfortable and safe .

I will concede though, I’m getting to the point where I should be working on the track if I want to further progress safely . I would certainly progress more quickly .

Nom De Plume > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com 07/19/2020 at 07:04

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Guarantee if you started riding around wearing a Roadcrafter in less than a month your entire riding style would shift towards Iron Butt. :P

I get your attempts to work on skills before they are needed on the road. The suggestion was to let the miles pile up and not worry about how you look. Taking a corner 500 times without watching it on video to self assess vs. watching every single one and correcting is going to produce a very different result.  Ever since motorcycles were invented the only style point that mattered was riding away safely.  

Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > Nom De Plume 07/19/2020 at 13:18

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Well, I’d have to trade in the CB for something because it’s not suited for long highway mile racking. It’s true our equipment dictates our riding though.

I’d say I sort of did? I estimate about 10,000mi of riding between studying sport course BP to this picture. The problem with BP is that it only goes so far learning naturally. I was probably a little brash in saying if riders wear full leathers should all learn BP (whether it’s sumo or knee) but I think all riders should develop it for themselves regardless of gear or moto. Perhaps I should’ve articulated better that I’m more happy with what the photo shows of my progression of form.

As I said, until 2 days ago I had 0 clue I looked this aggressive and I take your comment to heart because it means, well, I suppose I’ve achieved decent BP if it visually appears I should be on the track . I value such feedback and I will continue to learn and progress.